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  • INITIATION TO ALCHEMY

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    Dear blog friends,

    You certainly remember how in our previous study the dream surprisingly advised Loren to express her anger. When, a few days later, she felt this instinctive emotion that she had always repressed rising up in her, she followed the advice of her dream and expressed her anger to her husband.

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    Then... oh paradox! Her so-called negative emotion triggered a positive emotion in her husband, he hugged her with love. Loren felt liberated, energised, happy.

    But what if she had once again repressed her anger?

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    Let us see now the case of another woman.

    Some time ago Anne Marie phoned me very worried. She had just had a very bad dream. Judge for yourself:

    She dreamed:

    I'm in a living room and I see a dark-haired child who repeats that Léon Ceint - you pronounce the t - that Léon Ceinte has been killed. He was murdered. The child says it with great pain.

    Before I tell you the interpretation of her dream, let me introduce you to this charming and delicate young woman.

    Anne Marie was expecting a second child. The day before she called me, during the evening, she made her husband François certain remarks which he did not appreciate and he brutally reproached her. He was harsh and hurt Anne Marie.

    Since our friend always wants a peaceful life, she consequently tried not to upset her husband, she remained silent, took refuge in the bedroom, hid her tears and wanted to forget this painful moment.

    And that night she received a dream that certainly commented on what had happened.

    Let's see the different images:

    The living room

    The living room refers to the space where the family gathers to spend quality time together. The dream thus places its scenario in the setting where, the previous evening, Anne Marie was reproached by her husband.

    I see a dark-haired child

    A child has a spontaneous way of being. It represents a natural aspect of the dreamer who is growing up and needs to be cared for. The brown hair colour indicates that this child is close to the unconscious: he lives and reacts instinctively, he shows his emotions, his affects, he expresses his feelings.

    The child repeats that Léon Ceint - e - has been killed, murdered.

    The dream insists heavily on the crime committed.

    Who is Léon Ceint-e-?

    Anne Marie doesn't know anyone by that name.

    Let us pause here to see a very interesting aspect of dreams which was already well known by dream interpreters in Antiquity. Dreams play with syllables, they make puns and plays on words. This is called "the language of birds".

    The first name Leon clearly means "Lion", it confers an ability to adopt leonine behaviour.

    For Anne Marie, as for many, the lion, the king of animals, impresses with his majesty when he advances, he roars with such power that his frightened adversaries immediately retreat.

    Léon Ceint-e

    Let's listen to the word "Léon Ceinte", could there be a pun in this name? When she heard this name, the young woman, who was about to give birth, first heard:

    "L" = elle = she,

    "é" = est = is,

    "onCeinte" = enceinte = pregnant.

    "L  é  onceinte" = elle est enceinte = she's pregnant

    Thus Léon Ceinte refers to the young pregnant woman who could behave like a lion, a lioness.

    But Anne Marie also heard "sainte" in "ceinte", and "sainte" means "saint", "holy".

    Ah?...

    Ah?...

    ...Yes! ... Go on! ... Push your analysis to the end, and don't be afraid to make the necessary deductions... :

    Leon Saint?

    When this young woman starts to shout and roar like a lioness, yes, then she is a saint.

    What is a saint?

    The French version of Wikipedia states:

    "Saints are men or women distinguished for their spiritual elevation and suggested to believers as models of life because of a personality trait or behaviour deemed exemplary."

    So, answering, arguing, fighting, shouting would be an exemplary behaviour and the proof of a certain spiritual elevation?

    The French dictionary Grand Robert, the equivalent of the Oxford English Dictionary, explains:

    A saint is one "who conforms to the precepts of religious morality or who is inspired by piety".

    So what is piety?

    Still according to the Grand Robert de la langue française, piety is the quality of someone who shows "a fervent attachment to the service of God and to the practices of religion".

    What does it mean? What does "Léon Ceinte" mean?

    You've got it.

    For the dream, to be able to roar like a lion is not only the characteristic of spiritual elevation, but it is also a pious behaviour that marks a fervent attachment to the service of God and the practices of religion.

    I know that many people bristle at this statement, but my job is to translate the dream, not to try to please.

    Alas, what does the dream teach us? What does the child repeat with pain?

    Léon Ceinte is dead, he was murdered.

    Anne Marie collected herself for a moment, went within herseld and said to me:

    - So, Christiane, if I understand correctly, when last night I didn't want to 'yell' at my husband because his harsh words had hurt me, I killed the lion in me, the one who lives in a fervent attachment to serving God?

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    Like the child, Anne Marie and I had a heavy heart.

    Anne Marie and I remained silent for a moment. With great astonishment, with immense gratitude, we welcomed the unthinkable advice of the dream, which always comes to guide us through the trials of daily life.

    But how can we imagine the advice of dreams?

    How can we think that anger and shouting, so decried, so condemned, are services rendered to the divine, are a religious or spiritual practice?

    Astonishing!

    Is Zeus not the master of lightning? Is God's wrath not "quickly kindled" (Psalm 2, verse 12)? This is what turns us upside down today! But there is a truth here that people knew in the past: the right to get angry in order to defend oneself was a sacred right, a moment when the black divinity in oneself came to express itself.

    This dream places us in the midst of alchemy.

    Yes, that's right:

    Since we live too much in the light of the conscious mind, of rational thoughts, which claim to be superior, then, in an opposite and complementary way, it is at the obscure and misunderstood physical level, it is in this animal body within us that we meet the divine.

    This instinctive, animal divinity manifests itself to Anne Marie, as it does to many, in the form of the roaring lion, whose power makes his opponents recoil.

    Is it any wonder that 4500 years ago the Nubians in southern Egypt worshipped the lion-headed god Apedemak, the god of war, victory and fertility?

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    The Egyptians also worshipped the goddess Sekhmet "the mighty", a woman with the head of a lioness, nicknamed "the wrath of Ra", the sun god; she is also the one who governs the domain of female cycles, of fertility.

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    Strange concordances of these images with "Leon Ceinte". As Jung showed, these similarities prove that there exist in the unconscious, through time, constant images common to humanity. He called these images "archetypal" and thus demonstrated the existence of the collective unconscious, of infinite dimension compared to the personal unconscious.

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    With this great image of the lion and the lioness, the dream today has come to remind the young pregnant mother of the crime she has committed by refusing to let this god within her express itself, this same fundamental, archetypal power that would have given her the strength to fight in words with her husband, would have ensured her victory and also her fertility. All she gained was to go, defeated, to cry in her room. And, like a saint, with generosity and self-denial, she forgave.

    Of course, she thought she was doing the right thing, but she was very much mistaken. The alchemical dream then reminded her that it is precisely by doing "the bad" that she will do "the good".

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    Conclusion

    This is the great lesson of dreams and alchemy today, which, in the name of morality, we are reluctant to practice. This, however, is what we need most. It is even the vital problem of our decaying society: to let the animal in us express itself, to recognise the value, the dignity, the divinity of our instinctive life, which is the safeguard of our balance, our health, our joy of living.

    What I am telling you here is not a dogma, it is not a nebulous theoretical conception. It is a fact and a fact that dreams constantly bring to light. Jung showed it. In my turn I have just given you again the actual proof of it with this dream.

    I now offer you an eloquent video. You will be able to contemplate the anger of the lion, feel the power that emanates from its roar and see the terror of the enemy who flees:

    Lion versus crocodile on Youtube

     

    Written by Christiane

    Translated by Marianne
    My Facebook Page about Dream Interpretation
    a.vos.songes@gmail.com

     

    Illustrations

    I would like to thank the artists and photographers whose work I have used to illustrate my blog.

    angry woman shouting: 7sur7.be
    Lion: Istockphoto.com
    Dead lion: rfi.fr
    Lion-headed warrior god Apedemak: Wikipedia
    Sekhmet from the temple of Mut at Luxor, granite, 1403–1365 B.C., in the National Museum, Copenhagen: Wikipedia
    Bas relief of the goddess Sekhmet: travelevasion.fr
    Quarrelling couple: fortissima.com

     

    This article was first published on the French blog on 18 February 2017:
    "Suite alchimique 2" on Christiane's French blog

  • DREAMS DON'T TELL YOU WHAT YOU'RE EXPECTING

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    Dear blog friends,

    From the end of November 2020 to February 2021, we have just spent three months reflecting on the relationship between the outside world and the inside world. For you, on this subject, I have collected and translated 6 fascinating articles, 6 articles that Christiane, over the course of time, has put on her blog with love. Dreams teach us so many surprising facts!

    Today we are going to move on to another study theme and you will go from one surprise to another.

    Yes, you will! Could you imagine it? The new topic is:

     

    Of the Happiness of Anger

     

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    Anger!

    Anger is getting a lot of bad press today. That's the negative emotion to run away from.

    One exclaims:

    - But stay zen, my dear!

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    And the other says:

    - If you're angry, my poor thing, it's because you're far from having reached Enlightenment!

    An Enlightened One is detached from these inner storms, he controls himself and remains calm, above the disturbances of this lower earth.

    Softness, serenity are the proof of a certain spiritual elevation.

    One can read for example on the Internet:

    "Anger or Zen?

    Angry attitude or Zen meditation? Their consequences are deeper than you think. Anger creates disorders of the organism. The stress it causes diminishes the quality of our immune system and makes us susceptible to infections: herpes pimples, liver disease, and, for some, a list of even worse ravages. On the contrary, the result of a session of relaxation, letting go, or sharing increases the immune defences, balances the heartbeat, lowers blood pressure. Choose your side!"

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    Thus, one restrains oneself from any vigorous movement, one refrains from saying directly what one thinks, one shows oneself smooth, one does not contradict, one is kind! Oh yes... a love...

    A certain form of "Christianity" - is it that of Christ? I don't think so -, and a certain form of "Buddhism" - is it Buddha's? I don't know -, agree on this point, recommending to avoid any movement that could hurt, hurt the other or do harm.

    But this is not always the opinion of dreams. We have already studied the dream of Tania, which showed her that being mean like her sister-in-law by getting angry with her colleagues was beneficial to her.

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    Dreams are the expression of nature, of life, of the instinctive force that defends its territory. And dreams don't necessarily find that anger is always that bad. You will be able to judge for yourself with this dream.

    Many women have a charming temperament, they are gentle, patient, tolerant. Their greatest desire is to maintain peace in the home. Loren is one of them.

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    Never raising her voice. If she has a reproach to make, she says it nicely, with very measured words.

    She has received a very "Christian" education and she keeps in mind the words of Saint Paul:

    "Love has long patience, love is kind [...]

    it is not quickly provoked, does not impute evil, [...]

    it bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things." (1)

    The famous apostle understood very well the necessity of love, he who, filled with hatred a few years earlier, helped the murderous Jews to stone the first Christians (The Bible, Acts of the Apostles, ch.7, v.58; Acts, ch.8, v.1-3; Acts, ch.26, v.9-10).

    But Loren doesn't know hate.

    Life is easy with the young woman. Yet she doesn't have an easy life. Her husband has a drinking problem, which makes him irascible, aggressive, bad. And Loren puts up with it, without saying anything.

    But dreams are watching over her, and she received this dream that she confided to me:

    Dream

    I'm sitting at a table in a bar. I see a man coming towards me. He hands me a package, it's a gift. I take it and look at it: it's a chocolate bar, the one I used to eat when I was little. It's Kohler chocolate.

    She woke up amazed.

    Let's conduct the interpretation methodically.

    The bar

    The first picture shows a place in everyday life, where one can stop and sit down for a moment of relaxation, regain strength, have something to eat.

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    The dreamer explains to me that she rarely goes to a bar, she doesn't have the time and finds it useless to spend money in this way.

    So this dream is about relaxing and regaining strength.

    Loren in everyday life is tired, tense, dissatisfied, without realising it. And she doesn't allow herself to take time for herself, to regain energy.

    A man brings her a chocolate bar.
    A man

    As I have often explained before, the only thing that distinguishes a man from a woman is his sex, which manifests itself in the outside world, whereas the sex of a woman is inside her body.

    So what does the penis symbolically mean? It designates what is called the phallic force, that is to say the capacity to assert oneself in the world of matter, thanks to the creative power of the idea, of thought, and thanks to the strength to fight to give form to an idea.

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    This man, whom the dreamer doesn't know, shows her that she has within her the power to assert herself in the outside world and to fight for a result as well. But Loren doesn't know this.

    The chocolate bar

    Who doesn't like chocolate? But Loren doesn't eat it. It's not in her habits.

    It's a dark brown substance, she tells me, that you bite into and it melts in your mouth, it's very good, it's very pleasurable and it's tonic.

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    Let's recapitulate the meaning of the previous images:

    When it comes to regaining strength (the bar), the dream presents our friend with a man: her capacity for affirmation, of which she has no idea. This stranger offers her something to help her assert herself, something good, that pleases, that gives her strength.

    What is it?

    Could it be the sexual relationship with her husband? It is true that chocolate often represents the voluptuous pleasures of love.

    I'll check it out. Everything Loren said about chocolate must then also be able to be said about her love relationship with her husband.

    The young woman explained that she is not used to eating chocolate. Does this mean that she rarely makes love? No. This is not the case at all. Sexual intimacy is frequent in her couple.

    What is it then?

    It's Kohler chocolate, the chocolate Loren ate when she was little.

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    The dreamer learned German in school, and still remembers it well enough to know that "die Kohle" means coal and "der Kohler" means coalman.

    Ah, Coalman chocolate, like Suchard or Nestlé chocolate.

    So why does the dream choose this brand rather than another?

    Kohler

    Isn't there a play on words? Of course there is! If you happen to speak French, you will know that "Kohler" sounds like "colère", which means anger! This chocolate is anger!

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    Let's do the checks:

    - Loren ate chocolate when she was little. Did she get angry as a child? "Yes," she says, she used to fight with her brothers and sisters and she was no pushover.

    - "Chocolate is good, it makes you happy and gives you strength," said Loren. What about anger?

    - "Yes," exclaimed the young woman, "when you've said what's on your heart, it's a relief, it feels good, it makes you feel better".

    So, check it out, Kohler chocolate is anger. Loren needs to taste her anger.

    The dreamer looks at me dubious, dubious. What!? She should let her anger build up and express it?

    She tells me that she often feels a shock in her stomach, every time something doesn't seem right and hurts her, but she pushes this signal away, she prevents herself from reacting to avoid conflict, she handles her emotions, she always remains calm and likeable. She shuts up.

    Well, no, no, and no! The dream offers her something else. It advises her from now on to assert herself and, in order to do so, to decide to say what is in her heart, to get angry. But then, it's not peace, no, there is going to be war in the marriage!

    Loren went home very puzzled. And it wasn't long before she had the opportunity to feel the strength that she had been pushing back inside her, and courageously, expecting a terrible scene, for once she threw a tantrum, said her disagreement, said her anger.

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    And then, ... surprise... she felt relieved, liberated, at ease and full of energy.

    In front of her, her husband, dumbfounded, listened to her indignation, looked at her without saying a word. And when she fell silent, he said to her:

    - I didn't know you were so beautiful when you're angry.

    It was without irony, it was sincere, to make up for it.

    He approached her, he took her in his arms and held her close to him.

    Loren hid her face on that solid chest and in her head she heard herself say:

    - My God! If I had known! How inhibited I have been, and how stupid!

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    Does this mean that Loren will always have to get systematically angry? Certainly not. Dreams have come to compensate for an imbalance of which she was unaware. They advised her to follow her instinctive reaction. The external principles are valid, of course, but the internal reaction is more accurate and always better suited to the circumstances of the moment. Respecting her emotion, being faithful to her feelings, that is what the young woman must learn. And anger is one of them. It's coal from the coalman, and it gives energy, the energy of the earth.

    Christiane
    Translated by Marianne

    Dear friends, here you are informed about anger, the energy of the coalman, of coal, the energy that comes from the deep earth. Are you astonished?... Then wait for next time's dream, an extremely rare dream that fell into Christiane's hands under exceptional circumstances, it's a priceless dream!... that may make you angry...?

    See you soon!

    Marianne
    My Facebook Page about Dream Interpretation
    a.vos.songes@gmail.com

     

    References

    (1) The Bible, Darby Translation, 1 Corinthians, chapter 13, verses 4 to 7

     

    Illustrations

    I would like to thank the artists and photographers whose works allowed me to illustrate my blog.

    I haven't found the address of several photos and I ask their authors not to hold it against me.

    Anger: Blog Les scénarios de Marie

    Meditating cat: reddit.com

    Meditating woman: wallpaperaccess.com

    Roaring lion: Petr Ganaj
    https://www.instagram.com/petrganaj/
    https://www.pexels.com/de-de/@ganajp

    Divanna Pljevalcic: Tout Metz

    Chocolate Bar Jean-Paul Hevin in Paris: Pinterest

    Benjamin Castaldi: Closermag

    Chocolates: Greta Garbure

    Kohler chocolate: Au féminin

    Kohler chocolate: Galerie 123

    Gone with the Wind, Vivien Leigh and Clark Gable: Film kisses by Gigi Superstar

     

    This article was published on the French blog on 25 February 2013:

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